CCW Open Thread

Posted: May 18, 2010 in CCW Nation, CCW Open Thread

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    • kurumais says:

      btw i have been listening to 70’s glam rockers mott the hoople a lot this past week one of my older brothers was a big fan he used to play them all the time its fun to rediscover bands

      • Mike F says:

        I love rediscovering music. I use to listen to Bowie a lot years ago so when I heard this song for the first time in years, it felt good to know I could recall all the lyrics 🙂

    • Edward2962 says:

      I love that Bowie song.I didn’t know this until recently,but way the song came about is that Bowie passed on a chance to do a translation of an old french song called “Comme d’habitude”.Paul Anka bought the rights to the french song and completely re-wrote it and that became “My Way”.Bowie then wrote “Life on Mars” as kind of a response. If you listen closely the chord changes are kinda similar.

      • Mike F says:

        Yeah I remember hearing about that. Gives the song an interesting origin the more you think about it…

  1. Deemar says:

    What I miss?

    Who I miss?

  2. SMARTASS8 says:

    I’m sure I’ll get shit for this since “According To Jim” isn’t a good show, but I’m still a sucker for good physical comedy.

  3. cballsack says:

    Anyone watch the season finale of V? I totally didn’t get what happened at the end.

  4. SMARTASS8 says:

    Has anyone seen “Daybreakers”?

  5. generaldark says:

    I wrote another new story. its only the first part of it tho. http://generaldark.wordpress.com/ some of you wanted to see some original stuff so here is part of my originality.

  6. Just watched this episode. I never get tired of That 70’s Show.

  7. Anyone catch the Smallville season finale? Had a pretty sweet opening. Makes one wish we could get a flat out Superman show.

  8. kurumais says:

    catching up on my books
    Ok I just finished the first 9 issues of batgirl and it was surprisingly terrific
    Why wasn’t I reading this while BoP was on hiatus?????
    If you like birds of prey youll like this.
    Im a fan of the batfamily not the im so dark and anksty one now but the one back in chuck Dixon days and the gotham knights days where they would work together and actually communicate
    If you liked that bat stuff you’ll like this book and bryan q miller’s writing
    This isn’t a fan fiction love fest , there is tension and conflict between the bats but they are written with enough intelligence and respect for each other they can see past that
    Oracle is just as much a star of this book as Stephanie brown and she is written here as good as any BoP book ive read . And funny , I found myself chuckling quite a bit, babs and steph are funny, first at each other then as their relationship develops they are starting to be funny with and for each other it’s a nice subtle touch on miller’s part
    This book could easily be called batgirls instead
    Great guest starring spot by batman robin and robin as well
    Miller writes great dick and babs scenes and proved to me once again just that the 2 of them could have handled gotham on their own without the costumed army dc was pushing during BFTC. Miller’s batfolks aren’t perfect or UBER the way some writers push them just smart top notch crimefighters
    Now the first art team of lee gabrett and Trevor scott… they draw one of the best back books I have ever seen bar none and maybe my favorite batman

    If you cant wait for the next issue of birds of prey which was terrific btw see if your shop has some back issues of batgirl lying around
    thanks for letting me throw my opinion out there

  9. IronMuskrat says:

    • cballsack says:

      I had the hots for Belinda Carlisle when she became a redhead.

    • Deemar says:

      I wub u Musky

      🙂

      • kurumais says:

        my favorite red head had a good cameo in iron man 2 kate mara she gave tony the subpoena and im not saying just because her family owns my beloved new york giants and she sings the national anthem at games now and again she is just adorable and a pretty good actress

        • Deemar says:

          Oooh yeah Kate Mara, her family owns the NY Giants.

          Yeah she another curvy package of goodness

        • cballsack says:

          Very nice.

          And I never would have guessed she’s the daughter of the Mara family. Being a Giants fan as well, I feel like I should have known that.

          • Deemar says:

            It makes her even hotter, not only does she have a vagina she can also get you good tickets maybe boxseats.

            If only she was an heiress too a beer company also, she would be my personal holy Trinity

    • phil says:

      hey Jose, I’m bettin’ she’s already on your radar, but if not….
      how’s this for a connection between Chris Elliot and redheads?

      • kurumais says:

        wow her mom must be beautiful to counteract his genes
        great post
        i have to look her up see whats she has been in

      • Deemar says:

        She is a cutie!

        She got her father’s funny gene, she does a spot on Rachel Maddow and Angelina Jolie.

  10. Deemar says:

    I’m sleeping holla

  11. SMARTASS8 says:

    When did “Rudy Huxtable” grow up to be so hot? She was cute for the first couple of seasons on The Cosby Show but then she hit an adolescent rough patch. I saw her on House Of Payne(except for the uncle on it, that show is God awful) and couldn’t believe how sexy she got.

    http://www.zimbio.com/Keshia+Knight+Pulliam/articles/8/Keisha+Knight+Pulliam+Rudy+Booty

  12. kurumais says:

    WHY does anyoone watch bootlegs? someone gave me a bootleg copy of IM2, and i didnt watch it till i had seen it in the movies. i hadn’t checked out a bootleg in forever. so i put it in and its horrible i turned it off after about a minute why would you want to watch such a crappy looking and sounding version ? i cant see how that is entertaining.

    • cballsack says:

      Couldn’t agree with you more. I watched an Episode I bootleg. It was awful to the point of comedic… you could see the back of people’s heads and them getting up from their seats. I felt like I was watching MST3K.

  13. TheMSpot says:

    Who else enjoyed the new Atlas book? Never thought I would be interesting in 3D-Man, but Parker raised my interests. For 3.99 I feel I got my money’s worth.

  14. Edward2962 says:

    Today is Pete Townsend’s birthday.

    I think this clip is funny just cuz Pete TOTALLY falls on his ass like your drunk uncle trying to be cool,But he COMPLETELY plays it off.Professionalism!

  15. Edward2962 says:

    Back to comics…I’m sorry if ppl are tired of Seige 4, *SPOILER* but I need to understand the power surge.When I read this comic over the weekend,I just assumed the fight was in some other comic,but now I guess that’s not true? I’m just going by what I read on other websites. So,what was the point? Did Olivier just want to draw a cool splash page?
    Stuff I kinda liked:I liked that the void looked like a Lovecraft Jr monster. Liked in the double page spread at the end Luke Cage looks EXACTLY like rapper/actor Common.Steve Roger almost sorta looks like Payton Manning.

  16. Deemar says:

    I haven’t been to my LCS yet, no comics for me

    😦

  17. Locusmortis says:

    I don’t think that americans know the legend that is Alf Stewart yet?

    • SMARTASS8 says:

      Was that the actual dialogue? It sounded like it was being dubbed but it looked like what they were saying matched their lips.

      • Locusmortis says:

        nah thats made up dialogue, just like this is

        this is some of the real dialogue, strewth, strike me roan ya flamin galah!

  18. SMARTASS8 says:

    Other than Atlas, I’m curious if any of you bought any “Heroic Age” books today. Was it the same old stuff or was any of it worthy of the hype?

    • Well, just got finished reading Avengers #1 and here is a recap of that issue. And no, I am not fucking joking.

      J.

      • SMARTASS8 says:

        Their kids are assholes?

        Wasn’t that already done in the M2 Universe as well as that direct-to-video Marvel cartoon from a couple years ago?

        • Pretty much. And, ya, I thought they did this already too but it’s all different now because The Avengers are going to the future to fight their kids. It’s so exciting! And the last page reveals a swerve that has also already been done. Snoozers.

          J.

        • Edward2962 says:

          I didn’t read Avengers 1 yet,so I may be reaching,but I think Geoff john did something similar in his Teen Titans a few years back? The current teens have to fight the adult versions of themselves..Tim Drake is Bats but carries a gun etc?

          • But this is the Avengers fighting their kids, not themselves.

            J.

            • SMARTASS8 says:

              “The Heroic Age”: where even an Avenger’s children can’t stop them from acting “heroic”.

              Maybe Hawkeye will shoot an arrow into his kid’s head.

            • Edward2962 says:

              oh,ok…but now that actually sounds unintentionally funny.Like one of those 50’s movies about how the adults have to get the kids in line cuz the youth are out of control listening to that damned rock n roll and be-bop jazz!

      • SmokeyClocks says:

        so the only difference is girls hair?

        • If you are talking about Back to the Future and not the Avengers, no. It’s a completely different actress.

          J.

          • SMARTASS8 says:

            I think the original “Jennifer” is better looking than that bitch who broke Daniel-san’s heart.

            • cballsack says:

              Was there any official reason why they didn’t use the original actress who played Jennifer?

              • I thought she turned down being in two more movies. Either way Shue was better imo. She will rock in Piranha 3D. Can’t wait.

                J.

                • cballsack says:

                  Stellar career move, if that’s the case.

                • SMARTASS8 says:

                  Since you’re talking Piranha 3D, what did you think about Aja’s “Haute Tension(High Tension)”, “Hills Have Eyes”, and “Mirrors”.

                  • Loved Haute Tension, was meh on Hills Have Eyes and fucking hated, HATED Mirrors. At this rate Piranha 3D could be the worst movie I will ever see.

                    J.

                    • SMARTASS8 says:

                      Good for you man!

                      I know some people felt the ending was a cheat(I don’t think it was since the girl is telling the story herself), but I loved Haute Tension. I think there was some good stuff in Hills Have Eyes but there was just as much bad stuff. I’m kinda on the fence with that movie. While I didn’t hate Mirrors as much as you did, considering I started falling asleep during it, I definitely didn’t like it.

                      What about the rest of the “Splat Pack”(I hate when Hollywood makes their “clever” little takes on the Rat Pack)?

                      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Splat_Pack

                    • Rest of the Splat Pack, huh? OK…

                      Loved The Decent.

                      Liked Cabin Fever, The Devil’s Rejects, Wolf Creek, the fist Saw, Repo: The Genetic Opera, Rogue.

                      Was meh on Halloween, Dog Soldiers, Hostel, Dead Silence.

                      Hated Halloween 2, Saw 2 and 3.

                      Wow. I have seen every flick on that list that has been released. Crazy.

                      J.

                    • SMARTASS8 says:

                      * Loved: – Doomsday
                      – Cabin Fever
                      – Hostel

                      * Liked: – Saw

                      * Meh: – Saw 2
                      – Saw 6
                      – Dog Soldiers
                      – Devil’s Rejects

                      * Disliked: – Saw 3
                      – Saw 4
                      – Saw 5
                      – Descent(I just found it boring)
                      – Wolf Creek(I didn’t like the victims and it made me feel the same way you do about Bendis when he writes bad things happening to women)
                      – Hostel 2(the torture scene with Heather Matarazzo & the villains getting away with it just depressed me to the point that the movie seemed less ” retro exploitation movie” and more “cruel & nihilistic”
                      – Death Sentence
                      – House Of 1000 Corpses

                      * Fucking Hated: – Dead Silence
                      – Halloween & Halloween 2(not only ruined my love of Michael Myers but were worse than every awful Friday 13th & Halloween sequel put together; 2 of my least favorite movies of all time)

                      * Didn’t See: – Repo!(I hate musicals and hate Paris Hilton even more)
                      – Rogue

                    • cballsack says:

                      That’s pretty funny: “splat pack.” I didn’t know there was a term for this collection of filmmakers.

                    • The rest of the movies I didn’t list I was really just indifferent about.

                      J.

              • SMARTASS8 says:

                I believe she dropped out of B2TF 2 & 3 since her mom was battling cancer. I didn’t go to it myself, but they had a showing of the original B2TF in a town near me several months ago and the guests were Christopher Lloyd, “Det. Lubic”, “Beverly Switzler”, and the first “Jennifer”. Some guy I know went and, in addition to the ticket price, you could pay to get pictures with the cast.

  19. TheMSpot says:

    Do you think that Bendis will go down as a bad Marvel writer or the worst Marvel writer?

    • SMARTASS8 says:

      I’d like to think that he’ll go down as another Rob Liefeld but who knows. Although, to be honest, for better or worse Liefeld had his own style(although he loved ripping off ideas) but Bendis will always be an amatuer writer trying his damnedest to be the next Mamet or Tarantino.

    • I would say that he could go down as the worst BUT Loeb and Millar are still around so that title is still up in the air. And somewhere right now Chuck Austen is smiling.

      J.

      • TheMSpot says:

        Their can be only one.

      • SMARTASS8 says:

        I’d say Loeb is probably worse than Bendis, but he’s more entertaining in a WTF sort of way. Millar reads like a teenager who read too many issues of The Boys(although, imho, 1 is probably too many; I quit before it moved to Dynamite). This may be an unpopular thing to say, but while Chuck Austen sucked when it came to continuity, I felt he was better at dialogue and superhero soap opera than all 3 of the above mentioned writers.

        • I think I may actually have to agree with you on the Austen point.

          J.

          • SMARTASS8 says:

            How would you rate Bendis, Millar, and Loeb from bad to worse?

            • I can’t do it. None of them is better than the others in my eyes. I know that may sound like a cop out but it’s true. They all fucking suck equally as hard.

              J.

              • SMARTASS8 says:

                I’m having the same problem. I really don’t think I can say who the worst is, just that I don’t like any of them.

                • megamanx4ever says:

                  I would say I hate Loeb the most, because with Millar and Bendis there are at least a few books of there’s I enjoy to read. But with Loeb everyting that I read that had his name on it I absolutley hate, especially Rulk, and Ultimatum.

                  • I think Chuck Austen is one of the worst writers in the industry. Bendis’s Torso was rather good and his indie work is better than his Marvel shizz.

                    But, Chuck Austen’s work on Action Comics turned me off of Superman for quite some time. Superman is my favorite character and that is quite a feat to accomplish.

                    • cballsack says:

                      The worst writer in the comic book industry, in my opinion, was Scott Lobdell. How I despised that man and his stupid attempts to make every character funny.

    • Edward2962 says:

      I actually think he’s not that awful.I still like some of his late 90-early 2000 stuff.It’s just that if you can make money, produce top selling comics and sit in on hollywood meetings by just hacking it out,what’s your incentive to do better work?

    • Mike F says:

      Bendis still wrote good books. They will stay good regardless, he’ll never be the worst writer. Torso, Alias, Goldfish, and Jinx will always prove he can write.

      AND ANOTHER FUCKING THING I HATE ABOUT BENDIS!

      He’s a mart guy. You guys don’t wanna admit it but in interviews he has had moments that proved he does know what he’s talking about, but the fucker won’t write a good comic cause he knows he’s guaranteed a paycheck…

      but yeah he’s bad, just not the worst. (yet, at least)

  20. TheMSpot says:

    Event comics are useless.

  21. ullar says:

    Well, I just read a post on Bleeding Cool that is pissing me off. DC is pulling the same 3.99 bullshit that Marvel is. Time Masters, Mighty Crusaders and American Vampire are all going to be standard sized 3.99 books. I am really digging American Vampire and I don’t want to srop it but I can’t take much more of this bullshit. Class act DC, class act.

  22. TheMSpot says:

    Oh, and those of you who are actually buying Return of Bruce Wayne, I’m going to ruin the end for you wright now he (Bruce Wayne) returns to the regular DCU hope I saved you the money. Not much different from Captain America: Reborn only the art on The Return of Bruce Wayne is a lot better. Fucking Bryan Hitch…

  23. mbell028 says:

    Hey guys did anyone see how much Invincible 75 is going to cost? If you haven’t it’s going to be $5.99!!!! What the hell Kirkman?

  24. mbell028 says:

    I hope so let’s hope they don’t pull a marvel and just show a bunch of variant covers at the end of the issue. Has there ever been a single comic to ever be $5.99?

  25. mbell028 says:

    this might be a dumb question, but could it be that it is the final issue of Invincible? I doubt it is, but if it was I guess I could understand the price

  26. Friedmiester says:

    Hey regarding M Spot and his comments on the Return of Bruce Wayne:

    The Return of Bruce Wayne isn’t supposed to be a mystery about whether or not Bruce is coming back, I mean just look at the title. I believe the book is going to shine due to the fact that we get to see 6 different re incarnations of Batman throughout time, along with Bruce Wayne adjusting to these eras. Also the fact that Grant Morrison is writing it should solidify the fact that it is going to be MUCH more entertaining/interesting than Cap Reborn.

  27. kurumais says:

    http://thesuperficial.com/2010/05/frank_frazetta_was_awesome_192.php

    i cant believe i missed this frank frezeatta passed away
    he did some truly amazing stuff

  28. cballsack says:

    Homemade War Machine outfit. Pretty cool.

    • IronMuskrat says:

      Wow! pretty damn cool..

      But part of me wishes that mini-gun would suddenly kick on and take out the audience.

      ::Audience Cheers::

      ::Click.. Whir… Mini-gun begins to spin::

      ::Burruuuppprrrapppp::

      ::Cheers turn to screams of terror as the audience tries to flee::

      WarMachine guy: “Who’s laughing now motherfuckers! Who’s laughing now!”

      I think perhaps I have put too much thought into this.

    • Was that you ballsack? Please tell me it was.

      J.

  29. Mike F says:

    To all of you curious as to what the greatest comic ever written is…

    • I am only on volume 3. I have to catch up. But I do love it so. 🙂

      J.

      • Mike F says:

        I’ve never read anything better than this series.

        Its basically Grant Morrison, Alan Moore, Warren Ellis all mixed in a blender with a touch of Rock N Roll, and you have an epic comic.

    • cballsack says:

      You mean the greatest comic ever written isn’t Batman Vs. Predator?

    • kurumais says:

      defintely one of the best i ever read i devoured the whole series in like 5 days
      my buddies and i had clubhouses in an abandoned lotin my neighborhood all during grammer school so i loved that part if the book was just about them as kids it still would have been one the best comics i ever read
      i also hated/loved how he would switch the prospective of the story from one character to another and suck you back in so quick. i would be reading along really into it and loving it and suddenly he would drop the character he was following that i was loving and switch to somebody new. i was PO’d then in a couple of pages he got back into it and rooting for the new character as much as the one just left. that probably he greatest strength to be able to weave new characters and plot lines into the bigger picture so quickly and seamlessly. that and he draws great facial expressions.

  30. Insideman says:

    I just finished reading Peter Bagge’s “Other Lives” HC… I was digging it, got to the end– then there was (2) black pages (one had “EPILOGUE” printed on it) and then the final pages were sort of nonsense to me.

    I can’t stand it when something interesting ends up sputtering out and/or imploding at the end.

  31. assfax says:

    Man, just a cursory glance at that new Spirt issue was enough. The art looks like if Sam Kieth was shit. The colorist really earned their pagerate on that turd. Man I bet the uncolored art for that book is brutal.

    • Those Fist Wave books are turning out to be shit.

      J.

      • The problem with First Wave is it can’t decide if it wants to be noir, pulp action, or striaght up superheroics.

        1.) Batman shouldn’t be there.
        2.) Spirit doesn’t fit in with Doc Savage.
        3.) Doc Savage is played like he’s the lead and he’s the least interesting.

        Where’s Crimson Avenger and guys like that? I know they couldn’t get the Shadow, but still…

        • phil says:

          what about it does’nt seem to be sure about its own time period? It looks like it takes place in the 30’s or 4o’s, yet Ivory is wearing a sports jersey, were those being worn back then? Also in a background scene their’s a guy wearing pants hiphop style.
          With what I don’t like about the book , I’ll probably stick with the series.. I do like Rags artwork.

          • Insideman says:

            I am a HUGE Doc Savage fan. Sadly, I’ve spent years watching mainstream media completely rape this character so badly that it literally becomes USELESS for long stretches of time.

            Still, some of the things done to Doc aren’t anywhere near as bad as what COULD have been. For example, I cannot tell you how relieved I was that “FATHER TIME” finally did in the proposed film version that was supposed to star Arnold Schwarzenegger. (Could you imagine? The WORLD’S SMARTEST MAN… played by Arnold Schwarzenegger?)

            (DOC SAVAGE FIRST ISSUE SPOILER)

            I buy a ton of trades… But I bought the first issue of Doc with mixed emotions (hope and fear).

            What utter CRAP. I knew I was in for a MASSIVE SHITFEST at the VERY BEGINNING– when Doc, riding down a zip-line between his dirigible and the top of a NYC skyscraper (during a MASSIVE LIGHTNING STORM) somehow overhears two kids having a conversation on the building’s observation deck… As they run AWAY from Doc, the striking lightning bolts AND an explosion.

            What? Who still writes PISS POOR SHIT like this? This is HACK WORK reserved for the burnt-out old pros that should have demanded a Page One rewrite– or, at the very least, the first several pages to be REDRAWN to properly fit the action.

            Comics MASSACRE Doc and his Pulp cohorts almost every single time they attempt a “revival”. Unfortunately, The Avenger back-up in Issue #1 was only slightly any better than the lead feature… Way too wordy. (Like this post.)

            I share the same concerns/problems as everyone else with this book. What is the time period for the Doc book? Tons of stuff looks 30’s/40’s– then some of the cars in the background look like those box-like 80’s Chrysler “K” cars.

            I’m waiting to read Issue #2 sometime today but if it even remotely shares the same quality issues as Issue #1… I am in 2 issues and done. I doubt the book will last much longer after that. What a miserable FAIL.

            Now we can all await the NEW Doc Savage movie written and directed by Shane Black. Shane is a huge pulp fan– so I hope for big things. (Yet again.)

            P.S. Word of WARNING to anybody even remotely tempted to pick up DC’s recently released trade of Denny O’Neil’s old Doc Savage Mini-Series… Please do yourself a favor: DO NOT BUY THIS. One of the WORST Doc Savage stories of ALL TIME.

            When I saw the trade solicitation,I remembered reading this mini years ago and really disliking it. But then I thought, “Maybe I was wrong. Maybe it was better than I remember.” Actually it is WAY WORSE than I remember. Possibly THE WORST Doc comics story, in fact. (Although this “First Wave” version of Doc and his assistants is already a close second.)

            Anybody need extra paper to wipe their ass? I’ve got a whole trade paperback here BEGGING to be RECYCLED!

            • TheMSpot says:

              Wow. Why can’t these companies pay the same respect to characters like The Shadow, Doc Savage, and other pulp characters like they do with a character like lets say Batman who owes his very existence to. I know, I almost left out The Spirit which I don’t understand why DC didn’t continue with the Spirit book that Darwyn Cooke started, granted that book fell apart when Cooke left, and that bowl of diarrhea that was Frank Millar’s The Spirit didn’t help in me wanting to see the Spirit anytime soon. Also, I think that Eisner was a bit of a racist or at least had a lot of sterotypes in his writing, and I think that is why I really don’t like Frank Millar’s writing. Maybe, that is why I think that pulp characters died out in the 30’s and 40’s because they can’t meet modern sensabilies.

              • TheMSpot says:

                Miller, but honestly what’s the difference.

              • SMARTASS8 says:

                While Eisner’s depictions of black people would definitely be considered racist by today’s standards, I have to say, much like Gasoline Alley’s Frank King, he actually wrote the black people in his stories as real people and not just “things” to be laughed at. Sure, they were full of the racist charactures & sterotypes of the day that were cruel & hurtful, but I feel they did more with their minority characters than most of their peers were doing.

                • TheMSpot says:

                  Yeah, labeling Eisner a racist is harsh and uncalled for and was not writing curtain ethnic characters out of hate but as characterization of the times. Reading those characters by today’s standards especially the early stuff Spirit stuff is tough, but I think he made up for it in his later work and his Contract With God books as well.

                  • SMARTASS8 says:

                    Also, if you think about it, as a Jew, Eisner probably wasn’t treated that well himself. Granted, he wouldn’t have stood out in a crowd as much as someone who didn’t have white skin, but he grew up in an era when Jewish people would often change their last names(or shorten them) to sound less Jewish.

                    • TheMSpot says:

                      That’s why I threw in the Contract with God series which is pretty mcuh about growing up in a poor Jewish neighborhood.

                • phil says:

                  I have not seen much of Eisner’s work outside of The Spirit, but if I’m to use the Spirit as a template of sorts… I would say most definitely that he used blacks as “things” to laugh at.
                  What irks me about Eisner is that despite the the time period, he seemed to know better, and yet put his bs racist rhetoric out anyway! Where as someone like Robert Crumb seemed to be a guy that was more a product of his environment. (not that that’s an excuse)0

                  • SMARTASS8 says:

                    I have to disagree with you. Not only was Ebony treated with respect by the other regular cast members, he was often portrayed as a hero & his skin color never came up. Eisner also wrote a black character named Detective Grey who with his “plain speaking” progressed black comic characters even farther than others at the time did.

              • Insideman says:

                I loved Cooke’s version of the Spirit. I’ve commented elsewhere that I don’t see anything wrong with the Evanier/Aragones version either. (I don’t know but I might be in the minority with that last opinion…) I am finishing the trades now. I really dig their more lighthearted approach– while still showcasing plenty of adult sensibilities.

                It just must makes me sick that these companies license these great characters– then often hand them off to people who don’t know how (or don’t care) to write them properly.

                I think most of the Pulp characters could easily work in a present day “edgy” context… Doc Savage actually sends criminals to his private “hospital” where he and other physicians basically lobotomize the “bad” right out of the criminals. The Avenger isn’t exactly a pussycat toward bad guys either.

                • TheMSpot says:

                  Agreed, did you read the Black and White backups for The Spirit and if so what did you think.

                  • Insideman says:

                    I did not.

                    I’ve only ventured down “Doc Savage Lane” so far.

                    From what I can tell, this may have been the proper course.

                    The 1st Avenger backup (in Doc Savage #1) was OK… I’m going to go read the second installment shortly.

                    How are the backups?

                    • TheMSpot says:

                      Not sure, I like the Batman: Black and White backup series they did awhile back, and I wanted to see how this backup compared to them because the first volume of the Batman: Black and White series was good and won a Eisner.

      • SMARTASS8 says:

        Great idea! Shitty execution!

        I was so excited for these books even though I hate Azzarello on superhero comics(even those with a heavy noir influence), but they have completely failed with me. If these are going to be the only versions of these characters in comics, why change them so much from their iconic interpretations? A female Ebony? A Rima that looks like she’s out of Apocalypto? No thanks! I was hoping they added The Shadow to this line, but now I’m happy they didn’t.

        • Locusmortis says:

          Agreed, shitty execution. I have some hope with David Hine taking over the spirit but its definitely on the “one more shit issue and yer dropped” list.

          • I have to admit, I was never too interested in Doc Savage. I respect the character for being one of the first pulp heroes though.

            I honestly don’t think the Spirit and Doc Savage fit together.

  32. Anyone read Zantanna #1 yet?

  33. kurumais says:

    what is the point of the YOUNG ALLIES title coming out? do the young avengers even sell?
    has rikki barnes/nomad taken the comic world be storm? where is the market they are going to tap?
    it ticks me off because rikki barnes could have been an interesting supporting character in cap
    instead of the dull character starring in completely forgettable stories she is now.

  34. Mike F says:

    So anyone else feel like Zatanna 1 was a sad attempt to be as cool as Birds of Prey 1?

    Yeah… Damn it, I knew no good would come from a Paul Dini Comic… I’ll give him one more chance tho.

    • kurumais says:

      yeah zantanna didnt do much for me either and i havent been impressed with any of the paul dini comics ive read

  35. phil says:

    this is Sparta….sorry guys, but I’m hooked now! 🙂

  36. Rob F says:

    Hey Jose, do you know when the Amory Wars series from Boom Studios is coming out? I know you and Elliot weren’t huge fans of Kill Audio but Peter David is co-authoring the series, I just can’t figure anything out when I go to Boom’s website.

  37. kurumais says:

    I AM OUTRAGED!!!! deathcry and D-Man didn’t make art adam’s avengers poster
    how dare he leave them out!!!

  38. kurumais says:

    Random thoughts reading this weeks comics

    Really liked atlas 1 but I wish they had a different artist. im not knocking Gabriel hardman’s talent at all just not who I would like to see on this book with the inking I felt like the whole comic takes place in darkened room with no direct sunlight in the whole issue im sure in a few issues I wont even care I will have gotten used to him

    Im not crazy about john romita jr’s artwork but he draws a real nice kang
    Pak and van lente write awesome comic books

    The next phase of iron man looks good so far still not sure about sawyer playing tony stark though

    Bryan q miller is writing big stories in a little book called batgirl

    Is it me or are there suddenly a lot of women working in comics? More and more books im am reading have women I the credits. Its like some sort of deadline happened a few months ago and now all the stuff by gals that got jobs then are hitting stands.

    Zantanna, nothing special, really nice cover, nice last page, some cute art, not much else

    Why is avengers academy filled with z list characters you would never want to see in the avengers in a million years?

    The cover for cap 607 looks awesome they should change the name of the title back to captain America and the falcon

    Noh varr the protector made marko djurdjevic avengers heroic age poster I hope marvel has some kind of plan for him that involves him being in a comic

    Paul renaurd’s cover for hawkeye & mockingbird #1 is pretty cool but aren’t they a little too green arrow and black canary?

    Interesting art by Kevin walker in the tbolts story in enter the heroic age
    Luke cage really isn’t that powerful or awesome why is he suddenly the greatest thing since sliced bread?
    Did being a new avenger and not defeating the hood’s gang or the dark avengers all those fights really do that much for his reputation?

    Has anyone figured out why they killed the wasp?

    I bought jla because I wanted to see dick grayson lead the team he had an ok moment mostly it seemed like another event … the art the big splash pages the shoving of as many characters in a panel as they could , it all seemed like another dc event …I was turned off

  39. comicbookdude says:

    Hey are any of you guys open for going on the chatroom tonight? Since it’s the weekend for me I can stay up late 🙂

    • phil says:

      speaking of the chatroom, CBdude…I am so sorry for leaving you hanging the other day. The editing of my vid took a lot longer than I had anticipated. Poor excuse, Iknow, but hopefully I can manage my time better…emphasis on hopefully 🙂

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